Yes, dear!
Never Say Die
Like the Native American, I use all parts of the buffalo. Meaning that I milk my prospects dry, to a fault.
Some guys bitterly delete a girl’s number after a flake or two, but I know that it takes 10 seconds to shoot a girl a text and see if she’s in the right mood to respond favorably. Double (or triply) so if you mass text. You have nothing to lose, except your dignity. And you will lose it. Over. And. Over.
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Since I still have a shitty old flip phone, it periodically runs out of space for text messages. Today my phone filled up, so I went back through some of the Sent messages to delete them.
I noticed a mass text from a few weeks ago: “Hey do u want to grab a drink this week?”
I had sent it to three girls. Except now two of them were just random numbers, meaning I had deleted them from my phone.
Hmm… these prospects must have been really dead for me to delete them. Well, what’s a resourceful Gamesman like myself to do? Resurrect them, of course.
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I knew pretty well which girls these were. One was a super-hot 30-something who had been into me the night we met but was drunk, and completely ignored me after that day.
The other was a girl I spoke to for about 5 minutes before leaving a concert. We vibed, had some good inside jokes going on, but I made one comment about “my girlfriend” when I meant my ex-girlfriend.
I was experimenting with jealousy plot lines around that time, and when we texted later in the week, I really overdid it. She told me she had just got out of yoga class, so I said, “Oh, this girl I’m dating teaches yoga. Maybe she’s your teacher?”
After that, this girl was understandably weary of hanging out with me. You advertise your preselection through your vibe and confidence, not by bragging about it. It is totally counterproductive to tell a girl you sleep with a lot of girls or that many girls like you. You can drop SUBTLE hints, such as remarking about “stalker exes” or frequently getting interrupted by texts. But don’t give her conscious brain a reason to disqualify you. Her subconscious already knows you’re a desirable man, and is getting her body revved up to have sex with you.
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So assuming-but-not-really-knowing who these two girls were, I sent them another text. “Let’s get a drink this week.”
I get a text back, so I save this girl’s number in my phone again, as “?”.
?: Who is this again?
I decide the best course of action is just to call her and find out who she is. I even plan on explaining how I’ve deleted her number too (although in hindsight she probably wouldn’t have believed me, haha).
Luckily she doesn’t answer, so I get to hear her name right away in the voicemail. It’s indeed the concert girl who thought I had a girlfriend. I leave a message: “Hey ? it’s Dagonet. Give me a call when you have a chance. Talk to you soon.”
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A few minutes later I get this text:
?: Is this the Dagonet with a girlfriend??
This is where the power of Agree & Amplify comes in. Through this one easily-mastered technique, I completely change this girl’s opinion of me.
Dagonet: No you must have me confused with someone. im the dagonet with 3 girlfriends
?: Got to give you credit- you are witty
Dagonet: Lets get one drink and u can more accurately judge me.
?: Ok. . You are very persistent, aren’t you? Lol. When are you free?
Dagonet: Another of my great traits. thursday would work
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By this time it was after 11 PM so we’ll see if it picks up tomorrow.
Regardless, you can see the power of persistence, and of passing a shit test.
When in doubt…
Agree & Amplify
Yep, in total agreement over here.
In my experience, it’s always better to think of a prospect as dormant rather than dead. More than a few cold leads have been reversed with a little persistence and some self-made luck.
“You advertise your preselection through your vibe and confidence, not by bragging about it”
This. Learned the hard way.
Agreed.
Good post, but don’t you think the flake rate is still ridiculously high?
By the way good choice bolding that phrase, something that guys tend to forget and kill their game.
Yeah… or you probably could’ve just said “ex-girlfriend” or “girl I used to date”. Girls don’t want to date guys with girlfriends… that would make you seem sleazy and she doesn’t want to be a “side-thing”… at least not until she’s really into you. They do however want to date guys that are pre-selected. There’s a difference.
I tried VK’s new tip for this last night and it worked like a charm. First you ask her, “So what’s dating been like for you in (city)?” She’ll complain about dudes and then you can be the opposite (to get her Hamster excited). Then she’ll ask you what it’s been like for you (happened last night), and you say, “I’ve been lucky. I’ve met some great, smart, beautiful girls, and I’m friends with some of them still.”
Could be something about my timing and tone right now, it could be the circumstances of my city, and it could be both and more combined.
I don’t know if the flake rate is average, above average or what, I just know it’s what I’m working with and trying to crack.
My LTR after sex the other night, “how many girls were you talking to when you met me?”
Me: “5 Million.’
Her: “Stop playing…. for real!! I won’t get mad, just tell me!!
Me: “Okay. 16 thousand.”
This went on for a little bit with me continually giving bullshit answers, until she said…. “I’m not talking to you anymore, you won’t answer my questions!” And rolled her back to me and acted mad.
The old me probably would’ve been like “baby, don’t be mad… come here…” and tried to console her at that point. But me now doesn’t give a fuck, so I just shrugged my shoulders and went to sleep, figuring she’ll forget all about it in the morning.
Woke up in the morning, fucked her again. Everything is fine.
Yup, it’s amazing once you realize you can deal with girls this way. It’s like having a safety net, and you’re not at all afraid of it pissing her off.
Hmmmm….
I need to think this over.
My phone has plenty of first and second numbers.
My usual advice is to dump and block the flakes.
Maybe I should revisit that strategy.
What have you got to lose?
Dagonet & Privateman: as someone who enjoys reading both your blogs, I think that both of your strategies are correct given the different age ranges you are going after. Dagonet, I don’t see the ages listed for each of the notches but I would guess that they are close to your age and in the early 20s-early 30s age range, where you pretty much expect a higher level of flakiness due to youth.
Privateman, since you’re looking to date women closer to your age (and older Dagonet’s range), I think it is reasonable to expect less flakiness from them (those “girls” have had plenty of extra time to grow up, after all). Otherwise, you’re stuck trying to pursue some 40/50-something who still acts like she’s 20-something. Who needs that headache? So Privateman, for your target age ranges I don’t think you need to revisit that strategy. Plus, if you do I shudder to think about the “I told you so” you would get on your blog from a certain female blogger/commenter who you so amusingly sparred with over this earlier.
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That sounds very vampiric. But what if you truly don’t know who someone is? I feel like I should try this with a girl on my phone and see what happens. I forgot who she was.